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Leading Edge Interviews Alex Collier
(c) 1996 Leading Edge Research Group


Subsequent to the publication of the 39-page Ets and the Global
Connection in Leading Edge #89, we did an interview with Alex
Collier in order to ask some followup questions and try to gain
further insight into the paradigm involved.  The following is the
result of our interview.


Val: One question that arises as a result of analysis of the
material in your Dallas lecture involves a further exploration of
the concept of the magnetic color-sound frequency emanating from
black holes.  In your Dallas lecture, you said that this particular
activity began a short time ago.

AC: I don't know that I know much more than I've already said,
but I'll go through it again.  According to Morenae, on March 23rd
of 1994 a color and sound frequency apparently started emanating
from the black holes.  It is of such a high vibration that it is
literally invisible to us.  It is not, however, invisible to those
in other dimensions or to those who are technologically advanced
enough to be able to register this energy.  Now, they have said
all along that the universe that we physically see is only 21
billion years old.  The space in which our universe is in, which
is only one layer in many dimensions which they call "conscious-
ness," is a 21 trillion year old holograph.  This new frequency
which is coming out of the 3rd density black holes spans the
entire range of the holograph of the universe, and its is literally
creating a new holographic idea.  They are calling this new holo-
graph "the 12th," and they have said to me that it is literally
bringing all the dimensions together.  Third density is beginning
to implode on itself.

Val: Drunvalo Melchizedek at one time in the Flower of Life
discourse made some statements on what he thought people might
objectively see when a dimensional interface was in progress.
I mean, the physical picture that people would observe when this
was happening.  Do you have any ideas about this, or have the
Andromedans stated anything about this?  Would there be objects
appearing that have unusual colors, or things that appear and
disappear?  Have they ever told you what to expect, beyond the
increased appearance of ghostly phenomena as time progresses?

AC: Well, certainly they have said that, but in their opinion
the closer we get to fifth density, we shall see that.  In their
perspective, fourth density is a consciousness.  This is one of
the blinds of metaphysics that is being taught here on Earth.

Val: Blinds?

AC: It's a misteaching.

Val: Please explain.

AC: All right. Fourth density is a unified consciousness.  As we
move into fourth density, we will become more in tune, not only
with the Earth, but with each other.  We will know something is
going on without having to look at television or listen to the
radio.  We will start to feel it, and we will literally have
conversations "in our heads" with loved ones long gone or in
other parts of the world.  It will be confirmed that what we call
"daydreaming" is a real occurrence.  They said that this is going
to happen more and more as we get closer to fourth density.  Many
of the children under the age of 14, as we go into fourth density,
are going to start speaking ancient dialects, and have no explan-
ation as to how they know it.  Children and adults will be discover-
ing archeological sites all over the world.  New inventions will
come out of nowhere.  People will be able to draw sophisticated
diagrams.  Many racial memories embodying extraterrestrial origins
will start to come up as a result of the genetics that each one of
us carries.  Certain memories will start to come up, and they have
said that some of those memories will not be "ours," but instead
have their origin within the genetics that have been "attached"
to us.

Val: By these 22 extraterrestrial races that have had a part to
play in the evolution of the human body.

AC: Right.  Now, this is occurring already, and so many people
are angry.  Much of the anger that is coming up in young people
is because some of this DNA is "unlocking," and they don't know
what to do with the energy, because third density is compressing.

Val: Well, then, what would one advise teens to do?

AC:  The Andromendans never really got into this area. I'll have
to get back to them about this, but I am certain it will have
to do with setting up a "system of expression."

Val: Most probably.  I know that culturally this society is
lacking in viable systems of expression that have been thwarted
by technological "evolution."  So, a perceptual change where one
sees bizarre visual things would not occur until we begin to go
into fifth density?

AC: Yes, we will first start to see what we think are ghosts or
spirit guides.  Some of us on the planet (and there are already
five who can do this) will be moving in and out between fourth
and fifth density almost at will.  They will be able to teleport
to different places on the planet.  We're talking about hundreds
of thousands of people.  If they're right, this will mean we'll
be going through some remarkable shifts. If they're right.

Q: Getting back to other planets and other societies, what would
you like to say?

AC: There is so much life out there.  There is an abundance of
life.  There is apparently plant and animal life on the planet
Uranus.

Val: But it exists at a different frequency.

AC: Yes, and some of it is identical to what we have on Earth
on this frequency.

Val: How about humanoid races and societies, in comparison to
us?  The society on Earth has a manipulative base historically
grounded in the Orion system.  What about things on the opposite
side of the coin?  What is the "norm" in space societies, insofar
as you are aware of?

AC: Well, the "norm" is definitely "light."  You know, self-rule
and self-responsibility.  The thing that is going on in our
particular part of the galaxy, which includes 21 systems, concerns
the idea of tyranny.  What is interesting about this is that the
area in which this tyranny is occurring is a very very old area.
It has been colonized for a long time, and it has been under
control of some of the oldest races, like the Alpha Draconians.
They were the first race to have space travel in our galaxy and
were remarkable builders, but their species multiplied so rapidly
that they decided to conquer other races to make room for them.
Our race, the Earth human race, was literally created by a group
that came down from a dimensional realm, and these were the Paa
Tal.  This verbal expression called Paa Tal is actually of
Draconian origin.

Val: So in actuality the genetics comprising the human body are
a composite from around the galaxy, but the spiritual entities
occupying human bodies are literally the Paa Tal?

AC: Right.

Val: So, are there any Paa Tal occupying reptilian bodies?

AC: I don't know.

Val: That would be an interesting twist on events.  If there is
a huge time-loop, maybe the reptilians actually came from "now,"
and swung back 4 billion years and started something there.

AC: Interesting.  Anything is certainly possible. So, anyway, how
the humans in this galaxy apparently found out about the Paa Tal
was that somehow they were able to get ahold of ancient Draconian
records.  Now, the Draconians are apparently extremely private
about their lineage and their history.  Everything's "a secret."
They have family "houses" of lineage they are very proud of.

Val: Sort of like the Klingons on Star Trek.

AC: Probably similar.  Anyway, they found out about the Draconian
legends which speak of a time where a group of beings came out
of "nowhere" and created a race to war against and challenge the
Draconian sovereignty.

Val: Of the universe?

AC: Well, no.  We only see a small part of the universe.  Even if
you look at the part of the universe we can see physically, they
say there are 100 trillion galaxies.  So, the Draconians are not
everywhere.  There are a lot of them here, and this is one of the
areas that is causing a problem.

Val: What have you observed about Andromedan society?

AC: Well, I will give you the most striking things.  They're
incredibly happy.  There is a peace, traquility and humbleness
about them as a race...it's more of a feeling...an emotion.  They
are not like us.  Morenae is the only one who has gone to the
trouble to physically learn how to use spoken language.  Vissaeus
has always been telepathic.  The others do not talk.  They just
watch.

Val: You probably feel like you are "under a microscope."

AC: You can "feel" them listening to your mind, but they don't
infringe.  Val, it's very hard to explain.  Let me give you an
example.  If you knew somebody was spying on you, and you went
about your daily business mowing your lawn and throwing the trash
away, you would be ignoring them even though you knew they were
spying on you.  That's what it's like.  I don't have a problem
with that because I know that they're trying to learn about us.
Many of the ET's hold us in awe, and they are fascinated by us.
The thing that fascinates them the most about us is our extreme
range of emotion.  They are awed because emotion is such an
incredible creative force.

Val: Albeit coercively misdirected.

AC: Yes.  Now, the Andromedans themselves are not very emotional.
In other words, you can *feel* their emotion, but when it comes
to *expressing* it, they all appear to be "anal-retentive."

Val: What?

AC: They don't show it.

Val: Oh.  I have never heard that phrase applied to anything but
Earth humans.  Humans who have problems with alcohol and spend
their time focused in the second brain structure, and love to play
domination games with other people.

AC:  Well, that's not the right expression then.  I mean, they
are very straight-faced.  It's like they are "all business" even
though you can sense the emotions.  I remember when I first
started having contact and I was taken to a place where there
were Andromedan children, who moved away from me because I was
from Earth.  Now, the children are taught about the different
worlds and races, and because of the Andromedan holographic tech-
nology, it's easy for them to create environments where their
children really know and experience what Earth humans are like.

Val: Well, what are they like amongst themselves?

AC: They are very much like us, except that there is always
absolute silence.  The children are not real expressive.  They
don't run and jump around all the time.  They have a lot of self-
control.  When they do run, they don't bend their knees, like the
Japanese or Chinese.  There is a lot of smiling, but there is not
deep laughter.  It is as if you were going to a "mute class."

Val: What is the pairing like in relationships?

AC: Well, there are three sexes.  Male, female and androgenous.
What is interesting is that the androgenous beings tend to be
teachers.  In the middle of their mother ships there are huge
parks.  In the ship I was on, the park was 25 miles square.

Val: Can I safely assume that they do not have a social "power
structure" because they exercise personal self-control?  They
don't need an external political power structure?

AC: I have never seen that.  No.  There is what we would call a
"science team," that can also move into a military role if it
needs to.  The Andromedans go to school for over 150 to 170 earth
years, and they are taught all the sciences, arts, and everything.
They participate in those fields, doing the actual work, while
they learn.  Then, they have an opportunity to teach what they've
learned to the young ones.  The oldest and wisest teach the young-
est what they know.  They express this concept as the "law of
consistency."  The young ones gain the benefit from most of the
knowledge of the entire race.

Val: Do they consume food?

AC: I have seen them eat fruit, which they grow on the ships,
but for the most part all I have seen them eat are little green
tablets.  It's kind of like an alfalfa tablet, but it has a really
wicked taste.  I volunteered to eat it, and Morenae cautioned me
against it.  I took half and tablet and chewed on it and immediately
threw up, right there on the ship.  He told me it was because of
the oxygen that was in the tablet.

Val: Do they have blue blood?

AC: Yes, they do.

Val: So, that would mean their blood is copper-based?

AC: Correct.  You are the first person to ask me that.

Val: So, they must come from a binary star system.

AC: Yes, they do.  They say quite a few of them are binary systems.

Val: And our system here is binary, but on a different frequency
where Jupiter is a sun on the fifth density?

AC: Yes.

Val: So, on a different density, our Sun might not be a sun,
possibly?

AC: Possibly.

Val: Well, what is our Earth in the fifth density.  Is it already
there on the fifth, or is it a transformative process from the
third?

AC: Right now, the Earth in the fifth density consists of a huge
blue halo.

Val: So, on the fifth density, Earth is a "budding creation" ready
to manifest itself into physicality?

AC: Yes.

Val: So, what else is interesting about Andromedan society?

AC: In everything they do, nothing is ever wasted.  In other words,
all of the things they do involve education.  It's almost as if
everything they do is geared to "stretch" them more, challenge
them more, and make them a more intelligent, more understanding,
aware race.  What is really interesting is that they are abso-
lutely not competitive in any way.  It's something that comes from
each one of them individually.  All of their social functions are
focused on education and *not* distraction.

Val: Whereas the function of our society is exactly the opposite.
No wonder it's going nowhere.

Val: Do they have any kind of pseudo-religious structure within
their society, or is it simply an appreciation of the "is-ness"
of the universe?

AC: I have never seen any activity like that.  It is as if they
are "plugged in" all the time.  There is just a serenity that is
part of the race itself.  I think it was Paul the Apostle who said,
"always be in prayer."  That's what it's like.  It's like they're
always "in prayer."

Val: You said one time that their eyes change color when they
think or contemplate something.

AC: Their pupils change color.  They tend to slant a little on
the inside and outside, but for all intents and purposes they
are round.  It's like a cross of the "round-eye" and the oriental
eye.

Val: That must be fascinating to watch.

AC: Well, I had a lot of trouble with it in the beginning.  I was
so focused not only on their eyes changing color, but with the
flashes of color on their forehead between their eyes.  I was so
involved with this that I wasn't listening to what they were saying
to me.  They would have to repeat it over and over.  They didn't
understand why I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying.

Val: How tall is the average Andromedan?

AC: I have seen them as tall as nine feet.  Morenae is about seven
or eight feet tall.  He says he weights the equivalent of 450 of
our pounds.

Val: What is the shape of their skullcase?

AC: Just like ours.  I have seen some of their very old females,
where the skin gets whiter, and the skullcase tends to be elongated
in the back.  Most of the males look similar to us.  They are all
hairless.

Val: You must be quite a fascination for them, then.

AC: I have given quite a few strands of hair away.

Val: What other races do they associate with?

AC: They are very close with groups from Tau Ceti and from Signus
Alpha.  The group from Signus Alpha know a deal deal about
acoustic technology.  They do a lot with sound.

Val: Phononic sound technology and optophotonic technology, here
on Earth, are becoming part of the mind and behavior control
program here.

AC: Some of those from Signus Alpha are here on Earth.

Val: Are they interfacing with the Earth groups dealing with this
technology?

AC: No, they are totally isolated in very rural communities.
There are over 1,400 human Et's here who are only observing what
will be apparently leaving in the next couple of years.

Val: In order to meet the August 2003 deadline set by the Council?

AC: Yes.  Many of the planets in the Andromedan system have water.
Some of them are totally covered by water, and they live on the
surface of the water and below these oceans.  The dolphins that
we have now on Earth are apparently a cross between a mammal from
the Sirian system and one from the Signus Alpha system.

Val: What races have the Andromedans talked about to you?

AC: The Pleiadians, the Lyrans, the Arcturians, the Ciakars...

Val: Who are the Ciakars? (Pronounced See-kars).

AC: The royal line of the Alpha Draconians.

Val: The reptilians.  Are those the ones that have the wings
attached to their shoulders?

AC: Yes, and a very long tail.

Val: Ah ha. The pseudo-Biblical devil image.

AC: Yes. The Ciakar.

Val: I knew of their existence and what they looked like, but
I never knew the name of the race until now.  Interesting.

AC: The Ciakar are in fact a different race than the Alpha
Draconians themselves.  The ones that we know as the Draconians
are a sub-race of the Ciakars.  Other races mentioned by the
Andromedans have been those from planets in the systems of Sirius
A, B and C, where some planets are now being terraformed.  The
Reticulan system, Zeta 1 through 4, Signus Alpha, the Dals (the
brown Greys), the Dows (the white Greys), groups from the system
in what we call the constellation of Sagittarius, the Mintakians,
groups from what we see as the constellation of Casseopius (who
the Andromedans credit with saving their race at one time), Tau
Ceti, the Alpha Centari system, and the Venaticians from the Canus
Major area.

Val: It is curious why, when they would mention different races
to you, they would bother to translate a multi-million light year
difference in perspective relative to the way humans name
Constellations, so as to pinpoint the origin of various races.

AC: They did it to accomodate me.

Val: There are a whole collection of species in all these areas.
Besides assisting people here to understand that the universe
is highly populated, what other purpose can this detailed
information as to origin provide?  It does have a tendency to
confuse people who are still grasping at the idea that we are not
alone.  It could be overkill.

AC: I understand that, but we're kind of under a time crunch here
on Earth.  My understanding is that the reason they gave me
information regarding these races is that many of us have had
experiences in these races in space.  There is a hope, perhaps,
to trigger unconscious memory in humans here on Earth.  Also,
many of these races are involved in the rescue mission.

Val: Rescue mission?

AC: The mission, if need be, to rescue us from either ourselves
or destruction.

Val: I thought the basic concept was that we didn't need to be
"saved" from anything -- that how everything turns out, from the
Andromedan perspective, is already a "done deal."  We eventually
"pass the test" and after 2003 everything is fine and the
regressive tyranny is stamped out.  I presume that what is being
inferred is that it is already a "done deal."  I mean, that's what
is being inferred, isn't it?

AC: Yes.

Val: Well, if that's the case, how does one figure in this other
propensity or thought pattern on the part of the Andromedans?
I am trying to balance the two in my mind.

AC: I wrestle with that one myself.  I honestly don't know.
Apparently, certain things are predetermined but other things are
not, and there might be a time where they need to come in and help
us.

Val: That time would presumably be before or after August 12, 2003?

AC: Or, around August 12, 2003.  Many of these groups here are the
ones who will be involved. The Tau Ceti group has wanted to invade
this planet already and go after not only some of the regressives,
but more importantly factions of the United States government.
Apparently, one of the Tau Ceti race was shot down by the govern-
ment and taken somewhere at an underground base in North Dakota
where he was tortured.  His organs were removed while he was still
alive, one at a time.  It was earth people that did this.  Now,
this Tau Cetian is a human being, and some of the Pleiadian and
Andromedan groups literally had to step in and prevent the Cetians
from coming in here and trying to protect this person.

Val: What other kind of interesting interplay has gone on behind
the scenes lately?  There are apparently a lot of skirmishes going
on.

AC: A lot of it has involved the Pleiadians and the Greys.  To
my knowledge, it hasn't moved beyond those two groups going after
each other.  The Greys are trying to get out of here.  I was told
about a situation which occurred about two or three years ago.
I was given information that a 21 mile long craft was seen leaving
the equator from under the ocean.  The Tau Cetians, the Pleiadians
and a group from Zeta Reticuli I, who were not Service to Self,
formed a triangular position to block this craft which was trying
to get off Earth and evade the quarantine the Andromedan Council
is trying to establish relative to alien races visting the Earth.
Anyway, they captured the craft, which belonged to the Dows (large
white-skinned Greys).  They were able to board the craft and they
found 8,700 hybrid children.

Val: Human hybrid children. Grey-human hybrids?

AC: Yes.

Val: They were trying to get the hybrids off the planet even though
the whole hybrid program is a lost cause?

AC: Well, there's more.  They also found more than 1,000 human
children that had been placed in cryogenic stasis, and over
1,000,000 of these little boxes that contained the life forces
of souls from Earth.

Val: Captured human souls.

AC: Souls.

Val: And what do they do with these souls?

AC: They feed off the energy radiated by the souls.  What they
are doing, Val, is that they are taking the life force and they
are somehow siphoning it off a little at a time and feeding it
to the hybrids in order to keep them alive, trying to keep them
alive and create a soul in them.

Val: Meanwhile, what happens to the soul in the box?

AC: Morenae did not want to answer that question.  The 1,000 human
children that were taken off the craft were then transported to
the Pleiadian system.  The decision was apparently made that they
could not come back to Earth after this experience with the Greys.
I do not know what happened to the souls that were in those boxes.

Val: They would presumably have a way to release them, I would
think.

AC: I would think so.  I can remember Morenae saying that the
Andromedans did not know that the Greys could do this and had
this kind of technology.

Val: Now that they know about it, what now?

AC: I don't know.  There is a lot they don't tell me.

Val: Well, I knew more than five years ago that the Greys had
this kind of technology.

AC: Well, they are very frustrated.  Morenae has said on numerous
occasions that "it's just their time."  The Greys are going to
die out.

Val: What about us?  We pass the test and those who do not go to
fifth density create another 3rd density holographic reality to
continue to play the game until they mature beyond that.  In that
light, what does happen to all of us?

AC: My undertstanding is that all of us become teachers.

Val: All of us?

AC: Yes.  We all go to different parts of physicality in fifth
density.

Val: And become teachers.  Because of this experience we have had
on Earth?

AC: Yes.

Val: You said that as things begin to "heat up" vibrationally
here, we are going to have access to buried memory within the
genetics.  How is someone who is a "redneck" going to handle
that?

AC: Ha.  I haven't a clue.  I am kind of worried on how I am
going to handle it.

Val: And this is supposed to happen when?

AC: Between now and 2007.  By 2009 there will be people on the
planet going in and out of fourth and fifth density.

Val: On Star Trek and Deep Space Nine you see many different
races mixing and interacting.  Is that close to what is actually
going on?

AC: It's very close to the truth, from what I understand.

Val: If that's the case, it makes it even harder to be satisfied
with being here.

AC: I can't tell you how many times I have not wanted to come back
here.  When these dominos start to fall, people will be flocking
to contactees and people involved in the "UFO" fields for answers.

Val: And in many cases, these will be exactly the wrong people to
ask.

AC: In many cases, but nobody else is talking to them.  The
government's attitude is that "the truth is a lie undiscovered."
The people won't have any choice.  They will be coming to people
like yourself, who have integrity.  You will find yourself in a
leadership role.  It's going to happen, and it really is as it
should be.  Some of those who these people will go to for answers
will be Service-to-Self oriented, who will be "in it for the buck"
or are into being "famous."  That means nothing.

Val: That's mind boggling.

AC: Within a very short time, those of us who are talking about
this will go from being looked at as "kooks" to being teachers,
and all it will take is one mothership to park itself around the
moon, or have a squadron of craft fly across the United States
in the middle of the afternoon.  That's all its going to take.

Val: A lot of people wandering around talking to themselves.

AC: That's a given, and these people are going to want some
answers.  The religious people will be the hardest-hit, because
in many respects they are going to have the rug pulled right out
from under them.

Val: Well, isn't this also the idea of the regressives?  To allow
this to happen for a manipulative advantage over the population?

AC: Yes.

Val: So, one would never know which side of the coin it really
was, if and when this does happen?  How would one know?

AC:  It's an intuition.  However, the people in middle America
who watch television re-runs every night won't know the difference.
The average person who doesn't pay attention to what is going
on in their world and what it is that they are creating will not
be prepared for this.

Val: I would think excitement would push intuition right out the
window.  I think it would be a matter of keeping ones act together
whether what we saw was positive or negative.

AC: Yes it would.  The bottom line is that you won't know who you
are or where you're going until you get there, and we're all going
to be in that boat together.

Val: How soon will that be?

AC: It could be as early as April of 1997.  It's probably going
to be sooner, but April of 1997 I was told would be the highest
probability.

Val: That's about the time Hale-Bopp arrives.

AC: Yes.  Hale-Bopp will be here in February-March 1997.

Val: So, a lot of other things will happen around the same time.

AC: Yes.

Val: Do you have any take on this January 1, 2000 meeting of the
world leaders at the pyramid at Gizeh?

AC: You have read Sitchin's work, yes?

Val: Yes.

AC: Remember when he makes reference to Anu?

Val: Yes.

AC: Well, supposedly Anu is supposed to come back at that time.

Val: Which is on the regressive side of the coin.

AC: Yes.

Val: And?

AC: And all the world leaders are supposed to be there to worship
and adore him as the God of the Underworld.

Val: It sounds rather unexciting.  Obviously, something must happen
to Anu, considering how everything turns out later.  It's only
three years before the cut-off date for all extraterrestrials
to be away from Earth.  So, with that in mind, do you have any
take on the events between 2000 and 2003 and what the progression
of events may be?

AC: Oh, the earth will be going through a lot of changes.  There
will be new viruses to contend with, as well as famine and floods.
We will also have wars, most of which will be fought over food
and water.  China is supposed to break up into separate countries
in a vast civil war.  China will end up using nuclear weapons
within its own borders against itself.

Val: Now, this is curious.  A lot of university work has been done
that has come up with super crops, such as super corn and super
wheat that could produce vast harvests.  Harvard University
studies have shown that the Earth can comfortably support 44
billion people using only 25% of the ice-free land to grow food.
All this potential exists right now that they are not going to
even use, because somebody wants it to happen this way.

AC: But, there's a much higher agenda here. It obviously involves
us as souls, but it also has to do with something that is very
strategic about this solar system.  I will tell you why so many
people are interested in this solar system.  We have some strange
planets here.  Not only is Earth unique because of all the life
forms here, but according to Morenae, when we as Paa Tal came
down from a higher density to inhabit these bodies in third
density, we used a type of vehicle to travel from where we were
to where we are now.  A type of vehicle.  They say that the
planet Jupiter was the vehicle we used.

Val: Which is also now a sun on fifth density.

AC: Yes.

Val: So, we brought our own potential black hole along with us.

AC: Our own escape hatch.  Richard Hoagland is on to the hyper-
dimensional bizarreness of Jupiter, but he will never figure it
out because he doesn't think along the lines of spirit, really.

Val: Well, he has set it up so that he has an academic position
to defend.  The credibility gap.  I guess everybody has their
niche.

AC: Yes.  He just doen't talk about those things.  It all comes
from spirit anyway.

Val: So, what happens next?  Everything must turn out fine after
2003, because they're looking at it from a position in time.

AC: Yes.  We're going to go through some stuff, and I don't know
how it's exactly going to play out, but they have said on more
than one occasion that they are very proud of us in the end, as
a race.

Val: The end.  Of the third density experiment?

AC: Yes.

Val: Which will be in linear terms?

AC: They told me that it would be on December 3, 2013.

Val: Tell me more about your understanding of dimensions.

AC: My understanding of dimensions is that each dimension is a
holograph that vibrates at a higher color-sound frequency than
others.  Fifth density has a frequency scale of 214 colors, as
opposed to the 73 color frequency spectrum we have here in third
density.

Val: How does the mathematical progression go?

AC: I don't know, but it is a progression.

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